+-


Alarm Monitoring

Alarm Monitoring

Members Online

78 Guests, 1 User
turbogus

Alarm Installer Search and Reviews




Myalarminstaller.com

Author Topic: Need help choosing a wired/wireless system  (Read 3134 times)

tbkane

  • Gold Member
  • **
  • Posts: 21
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Need help choosing a wired/wireless system
« on: May 25, 2012, 10:00:48 AM »
I am in need of a security system.

The home is not prewired, and is 2 stories.  I can wire certain parts, like keypad, motion detectors and sirens.  I do not need smokes, as I have a hardwired set already.

I have 28 windows and 4 doors.  all would be wireless.
I need 6 Motion detectors and 2 sirens.
I need 3 keypads (1 front door, 1 by garage door and one upstairs)

I am not interested in monitoring, as there would be no timely police response based on where we live.  I would like to be able to dial in to arm/disarm and check the system, not sure if I need monitoring for that.

I am new to all this, and am having touble figuring out what I need.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  I intend to self-install.

Smith Wesson Security

  • Security Guru
  • ****
  • Posts: 1004
  • Karma: +18/-3
    • View Profile
    • Smith & Wesson Security Services
Re: Need help choosing a wired/wireless system
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2012, 10:05:13 AM »
Are any of the windows double windows? ( 2 windows installed together to make 1)
*****We offer Honeywell equipment, Professional Monitoring, Compass and Total Connect Programming. Tuxedo Keypads, Honeywell panels and parts.
 sawcfl.com

tbkane

  • Gold Member
  • **
  • Posts: 21
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Need help choosing a wired/wireless system
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2012, 10:56:25 AM »
there are 2 windows next to each other, they are seperated by a 3 inch space and trimmed out together.  If that is what you mean, then yes, there is 1 set of 2.

Smith Wesson Security

  • Security Guru
  • ****
  • Posts: 1004
  • Karma: +18/-3
    • View Profile
    • Smith & Wesson Security Services
Re: Need help choosing a wired/wireless system
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2012, 12:06:10 PM »
I would go with the Honeywell Vista 20ip You would have enough capacity for the zones you need.
You would need at least 1 programming keypad/ wireless receiver 6160rf

For email and text alerts and arm/disarm you could use a GSMV and we could set you up with Total Connect 2
You do not need to be monitored  to use total connect.
*****We offer Honeywell equipment, Professional Monitoring, Compass and Total Connect Programming. Tuxedo Keypads, Honeywell panels and parts.
 sawcfl.com

tbkane

  • Gold Member
  • **
  • Posts: 21
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Need help choosing a wired/wireless system
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2012, 12:53:38 PM »
my begining parts list:

Vista 20P Control Panel
6160v Alpha Keypad
(3) 6160RF Deluxe Fixed Keypad/Receiver (1st floor and 2nd floor)
(3) MX-40PI - Optex 100 pound animal immunity Microwave/Infrared
(3) LC-104-PIMW - DSC Dual Technology Motion Detector
(28) 5820L - Slim Line Wireless Door/Window Transmitter
(1) 5816WMWH Ademco Honeywell Wireless Door Window Transmitter
(3) 5818MNL - Recessed Door Window Transmitter
(2) WAVE-2 Indoor Siren
(1) BD412 12 Volt 7AHBattery
GSMV - Ademco Honeywell Digital Cellular Communicator
1332 - Ademco Honeywell 9V 15VA AC Plug In Transformer

Questions:
How does the siren get power?  Through the panel, or a seperate power supply?  Same with the wired sensors?

How long will the panel run without power?  How long does the 7AH battery last?
Do I need a aseperate power supply for the communicator (and battery battery backup)

How hard is this to program?

can the zones be named (ie: LR window vs. zone 19)

Also: if the 20p has 48 max zones, 16 smoke and 16 x/10, do smokes/x10 count towards that? Or is it 48 +16 +16?
« Last Edit: May 25, 2012, 12:56:00 PM by tbkane »

murphy62

  • Security Guru
  • ****
  • Posts: 1564
  • Karma: +23/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Need help choosing a wired/wireless system
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2012, 01:43:07 PM »
You can only have one wireless receiver on a 20P.
You need a 16.5 volt transformer for the 20P.  Honeywell 1321   16.5vac 25va
With all of those keypads and motion detectors you will need an auxiliary power supply.
I'm assuming the 6 motion detectors are hard wired because you can't mix manufacturers with wireless.
The siren gets it's power directly from the battery.

tbkane

  • Gold Member
  • **
  • Posts: 21
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Need help choosing a wired/wireless system
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2012, 04:41:29 PM »
You can only have one wireless receiver on a 20P.
 
How far is the range?  Will a transmitter on one floor reach the receiver/keypad on another at the opposite end of the house?
Quote
You need a 16.5 volt transformer for the 20P.  Honeywell 1321   16.5vac 25va
Thanks.
Quote
With all of those keypads and motion detectors you will need an auxiliary power supply.
okay, i will start looking for one of those.  any specs, min voltage to support the keypads & motion detectors, etc.?
Quote
I'm assuming the 6 motion detectors are hard wired because you can't mix manufacturers with wireless.
yes, those I can place on an interior wall and hardwire. Same with the siren and the keypads.
Quote
The siren gets it's power directly from the battery.
great, thanks.

More questions (in addition to the ones still pending from my other post):

how hard would it be to hook a light or two into the alarm, so that when the alarm went off, a few lights throughout the house turned on?

murphy62

  • Security Guru
  • ****
  • Posts: 1564
  • Karma: +23/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Need help choosing a wired/wireless system
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2012, 05:23:26 PM »
How far is the range?  Will a transmitter on one floor reach the receiver/keypad on another at the opposite end of the house?

how hard would it be to hook a light or two into the alarm, so that when the alarm went off, a few lights throughout the house turned on?

I have a 5882 receiver in the panel which is in the basement coupled with a 5800TM transmitter to handle a bi-directional keypad in the garage.  The house is two stories with an attached garage.  The only problem area is the garage because the house is stucco.  Stucco is applied to a wire mesh to support it.  The wall between the house and the garage is stucco so my keyfob doesn't work very well in the garage.  The wire mesh is an effective shield against radio signals.

The simplest way to handle lights is by using X10 controllers.  The panel supports X10 but you have to get the special AC transformer that supports X10 if you want to go that route.  I have an extensive X10 system in my house.  It took me over a year to solve all of the problems.  Go to x10.com to learn about their products.

tbkane

  • Gold Member
  • **
  • Posts: 21
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Need help choosing a wired/wireless system
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2012, 07:50:03 AM »
updated parts list:

Vista 20P Control Panel
(2) 6160v Alpha Keypad
(1) 6160RF Deluxe Fixed Keypad/Receiver (1st floor)
(1) MX-40PI - Optex 100 pound animal immunity Microwave/Infrared
(4) LC-104-PIMW - DSC Dual Technology Motion Detector
(26) 5820L - Slim Line Wireless Door/Window Transmitter
(1) 5816WMWH Ademco Honeywell Wireless Door Window Transmitter
(3) 5818MNL - Recessed Door Window Transmitter
(2) WAVE-2 Indoor Siren
(1) BD412 12 Volt 7AHBattery
GSMV - Ademco Honeywell Digital Cellular Communicator
1321    Ademco Honeywell 16.5vac 25va  Plug In Transformer
ELK-P624 - Power Supply & Battery Charger is this compatible with the vista 20p, can't find anything honeywell specific
18/2 wire for sirens
22/4 for the keypads and detectors

questions remaining:

How long will the panel run without power?  How long does the 7AH battery last? can I wire multiple batteries in parallel for a longer operational time?
Do I need a a seperate power supply for the communicator (and battery battery backup)

can the zones be named (ie: LR window vs. zone 19)

Also: if the 20p has 48 max zones, 16 smoke and 16 x/10, do smokes/x10 count towards that? Or is it 48 +16 +16?
« Last Edit: May 30, 2012, 07:15:18 AM by tbkane »

tbkane

  • Gold Member
  • **
  • Posts: 21
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Need help choosing a wired/wireless system
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2012, 07:16:54 AM »
Any answers out there to the following:

ELK-P624 - Power Supply & Battery Charger is this compatible with the vista 20p, can't find anything honeywell specificquestions remaining:

How long will the panel run without power?  How long does the 7AH battery last? can I wire multiple batteries in parallel for a longer operational time?

can the zones be named (ie: LR window vs. zone 19)

Also: if the 20p has 48 max zones, 16 smoke and 16 x/10, do smokes/x10 count towards that? Or is it 48 +16 +16?

tbkane

  • Gold Member
  • **
  • Posts: 21
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Need help choosing a wired/wireless system
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2012, 02:40:15 PM »
Okay, I figured out the zone name question by reding the instruction manual. But still no info on other questions.

tbkane

  • Gold Member
  • **
  • Posts: 21
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Need help choosing a wired/wireless system
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2012, 10:59:14 AM »
Any answers out there to the following:

ELK-P624 - Power Supply & Battery Charger is this compatible with the vista 20p, can't find anything honeywell specific

questions remaining:

How long will the panel run without power?  How long does the 7AH battery last? can I wire multiple batteries in parallel for a longer operational time?

Also: if the 20p has 48 max zones, 16 smoke and 16 x/10, do smokes/x10 count towards that? Or is it 48 +16 +16?

bringing up a dead thread...finally have the funds to do something, and was looking for the final answers.

 

Powered by EzPortal